obtuse much?
Sep. 26th, 2005 08:09 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
somedaybitchi just got this email from the Colonial Fleets website....an original series fans site. it's always been wanktastic, pretty much, but this just blows my mind.
“Give it a chance.”
That was the oft –repeated mantra of the folks on the old Sci-Fi
board. Give the new show a chance, don’t pre-judge it; watch it, see
what you think. So we did. We watched it and in the spirit of
fairness, we matched words with deeds, here at Colonial Fleets, and
created a completely separate but equal sub-forum, strictly for new
show conversation. It seemed to be the right choice, at the time.
Since then, we have been educated to the mindset of the author that
the offerings on this show, called Battlestar Galactica (2003), were
to be a reflection of society and we were challenged to “think about
it”; that there would be parallels to real-life events such as the
Sept 11 attacks and told, by the author, to “make your own judgments
as to what they say to you”; and that this new show would completely
“re-invent” the sci-fi genre.
Well, we have thought about it and have spoken those thoughts on
these forum pages, for much of the past 2 years. Ever since the new
series came about, this fanbase has been in a tenuous place and
Colonial Fleets was often a tension spring within the fanbase for
allowing and even promoting, at times, discussion of the new series.
Through that time, we made a concerted effort to separate the
comments from the commentator and to keep the debates focused on the
issue. Primarily, though, each of us has strived to employ our own
personal standards of morality and decency when presenting these
thoughts.
An example of these standards of decency and morality can be
witnessed by the following remarks by our good friend, Malkyte, who
very eloquently expressed the thoughts of many members, here and
elsewhere:
“Throughout the many years of human existence, there has always been
a line. A line that represented on one side, the best of human
decency and morality, and on the other, the pure animalistic and
monstrous evil that humans can be. This line has moved back and forth
throughout those same years, and depending on individual experiences,
it has always been in different places.”
“Society in general has appeared to become more tolerant of rude and
disrespectful behavior, to the point where it is celebrated when
someone is deviant or rebellious. It’s rather disheartening and
disturbing at the same time. But our society more and more rewards
liars, killers and celebrity deviants, who in some cases are only in
the news because of the crap they do, and not for any talent they may
possess.”
We share those same concerns about society and can see, for
ourselves, the truth in the remarks. In addition, we agree that the
“line” has been shifting back and forth with a decided tilt toward
the less than desirable aspect of human society. We also realize that
the entertainment industry has “pushed the envelope as far as they
could”, only because we have allowed them to do so.
We have allowed the entertainment industry to tell us that
it was "ok" to have a baby's neck snapped (the script originally
called for Number Six to drive her finger through the baby's skull);
it was "ok" to draw a parallel of sympathy toward the terrorists who
carried out the Sept 11 attacks - in other words, we got what we
deserved;
but, the straw that snapped the proverbial camel's back was the use
of rape as a military torture tool in the "Pegasus" episode.
We will NOT allow the entertainment industry to tell us that it is
"ok", at any time, for a rape to occur. It does not "advance the
story", it glorifies a horrible aggression upon another human being.
After nearly 2 years of this “educational experience”, we have
reached the conclusion that the movement of the line must cease.
While we absolutely hold no ill will toward our Fleets family members
who are attracted to the show, we can no longer willingly sanction
discussion about a show which goes against so many of our innermost
values.
Mr. Moore, your show has had many events which have driven us away
from its potential enjoyment. The negatives have far outweighed the
positives, and in this case, the negatives have finally come to a
head that cannot be ignored.
Effective with the posting of this announcement, the “New Battlestar
Galactica Forum” as well as all of its related sub-forums will be
permanently closed and removed from the Forum Index Page.
As mentioned above, the decision to close the "New Battlestar
Galactica Forum", etal, is done with no malice toward any of our
members attracted to the new show.
We value the contributions of all members of the Fleets family and
will continue our journey as a Battlestar Galactica artists' site as
well as a discussion forum centered on the Original Battlestar
Galactica and, of course, the "fun" areas in the Rejuvenation Center.
The Original Battlestar Galactica is the show whose revival this site
was built to support and that is what this site will continue to
focus on and support wholeheartedly. The "New Battlestar Galactica"
series has shown it's true colors and it is time for us to bid it
adieu.
The decision to close the "New Battlestar Galactica Forum", et. al.,
is based entirely on the content of the show and is FINAL and
IRREVOKABLE.
Signed,
The Owner, Administrators, and Moderators of Colonial Fleets
Titon
Warrior
BST
Dawg
Fragmentary
Gemini1999
Jewels
Martok2112
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Date: 2005-09-27 03:21 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 03:24 am (UTC)That's totally the best part of an already fabulous email. Mmmm hyper-moralistic pomposity. Loves it.
I mean, if you don't like it just say "I don't like it, it squicked me, go talk about it someplace else that's not on my board. shoo now", but the moralizing ... fantastic.
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Date: 2005-09-27 03:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 03:33 am (UTC)HOw was Slaughterhouse 5 "okay"? Or MASH the movie?
This is why I stay away from fanboards and wank at all costs.
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Date: 2005-09-27 03:54 am (UTC)*goes to wrap self in cotton wool to keep from getting bruised by all the bad stuff in the mean old world, also works on visualizing only the good things -- kittens and rainbows and bad 70s hair and uniforms with capes*
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Date: 2005-09-27 03:57 am (UTC)Thankfully, it seems to function similar to that of the rest of my flist.
*sends images of the towel scene to you*
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Date: 2005-09-27 04:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 04:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 03:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 04:10 am (UTC)and that's what it's ALLLLLLLL about. attention. they've got an open letter to Moore posted on their front page. it's equally obnoxious.
i especially loved them feeling they had a right to drag 9/11 into the so-called argument. cuz they're just.so.deep.
would have had actual respect for their decision if they'd just said they didn't like the show and don't want it on their board. that takes backbone.
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Date: 2005-09-27 03:57 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 04:05 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 04:13 am (UTC)*gasp*
not... IRREVOKABLE???!?!!?!?!?!!?
::swoons::
::recovers, makes note to self to buy Colonial Fleets a dictionary::
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Date: 2005-09-27 04:20 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 04:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 05:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 06:00 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 07:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 04:32 am (UTC)"Many families within our Galactica communities have suffered even as far as episodes of Post Traumatic Stress when witnessing the sickening scene you decided to air..."
I daresay there is more drama on that board then in Ron Moore's brain.
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Date: 2005-09-27 05:29 am (UTC)Ron, you post-traumatic-stress-inducing bastard.
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Date: 2005-09-27 09:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 06:00 am (UTC)*hee*
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Date: 2005-09-27 04:28 am (UTC)A rebuttal.
1. re: rape. Yo. go read a history book. The big one, not the cliff notes.
2. Fiction. Yo. go peruse a lexicon. The big one, not the cliff notes.
3. Hey! Guess what happens when I KICK this soapbox you're standing on!
LOL
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Date: 2005-09-27 04:32 am (UTC)Ha! *high fives kai*
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Date: 2005-09-27 05:16 am (UTC)hey! I want a "fear my Irrevokable freakweasel fu!"
shirt!
We can wear it to the BSG con.
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Date: 2005-09-27 05:26 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 05:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 04:42 am (UTC)Wanktastic. I just can't... stop laughing. It's IRREVOKABLE! *dies*
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Date: 2005-09-27 04:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-27 04:58 am (UTC)Yeah. This is better than weed.
(sorry, kids, eve11 and I are sitting in the same room and I'm only getting some ofthis down. It's gold, I tells ya, gold.)
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Date: 2005-09-27 05:32 am (UTC)smells like wank spirit
Date: 2005-09-27 04:49 am (UTC)OMG, they signed it with their screennames. Bwah!
Re: smells like wank spirit
Date: 2005-09-27 05:33 am (UTC)"...whose contents move her to an IRREVOKABLE decision regarding Helo."
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Date: 2005-09-27 05:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-28 03:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-10-02 06:41 am (UTC)http://www.colonialfleets.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12024
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Date: 2005-10-02 07:33 am (UTC)