Date: 2006-12-05 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adafrog.livejournal.com
YAY, a moon base!

Date: 2006-12-05 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] somedaybitch.livejournal.com
isn't it like the coolest thing EVER???????

Date: 2006-12-05 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adafrog.livejournal.com
OMG that is SO COOL! I hope they don't change their minds.

Date: 2006-12-06 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] somedaybitch.livejournal.com
:::crosses fingers:::

Date: 2006-12-05 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthurfrdent.livejournal.com
Well, while I like Obama on a number of levels, I am in mind wondering about how well he could do, being an outsider. Being that is a paradox, because while that plays well to a disaffected electorate, it doesn't play well AT ALL on capitol hill. They can show you in 2 seconds what parts of gevernment the prez actually has a hand in, and how his hands can be tied in many ways if he doens't tow a certain line... So being the outsider isn't always the best thing... just ask Carter. By the same token, he may actually have the skills to bring together a consensus group, and get some real work done, may have enough idealism to keep things moving a direction.
Dunno, I haven seen anyone with prez possibilities that I would be all that interested in voting for... Certainly I'm tired of the old guard [Frist? you must be JOKING, he thought about it? and Hillary? she just wants power, always has. people like that SCARE ME.] I don't count Obamas lack of experience as anything, because I think that sort of experience can be wildly overated. Look at Kerry, he has tons of exprience. Having exprience dosn't make you succeed, and doesn't make you not suck...

Moon Base Alpha? heh, IF we get to the moon, and IF we have an interested congress, and IF we have an interested prez... then MAYBE. Or we could have a prez that doesn;t think space is worth anything [like Clinton] and the whole thing goes down the tubes. It's not the technology that would ever cause us a problem. We could have had a base already. It's the lack of will, and who knows how to fix that?

Sarbox is just another law that worries about the worng thing... you can't legislate people to do the right thing. You have to convince them it's bad to do wrong. The IRS, the SEC, and all theo others STILL don't have a clear and unambiguous set of rules for accounting. SarbOx is such a pain because there are so many regulatory steps, and YET the accounting is still so complex you need a team of experts to make it work... build a nice house out of bricks, not a castle of sticks...

Date: 2006-12-06 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] somedaybitch.livejournal.com
Obama is intriguing, and i'm not really sure how much of an "outsider" he really is - they rather glibly toss that term around referring to folks who don't play status quo - but the fact that he's green is definately a concern. what i like most about him is his seemingly genuine desire to just simply do what's right and partisanship be damned.

Moon Base Alpha?

heh. first thing i thought of.

you can't legislate people to do the right thing.

yes, this. and it's arrogant hubris in the EXTREME to think that it's your position/right/duty to do so.

You have to convince them it's bad to do wrong.

or rather, i think, that you can do wrong if you so choose but we're going to catch you and punish your ass for it. because i'm sure the dumbshits behind that thought their law was doing just that [convincing them that it's bad to do wrong] but it's not government's role in that respect. they aren't the arbiters of morality as it were.

Date: 2006-12-06 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arthurfrdent.livejournal.com
heh, I meant bad as in the outcome will be bad, like we throw your carcass into jail, and give all your possessions to the people you've defrauded.

Date: 2006-12-08 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] somedaybitch.livejournal.com
true, but there has to be a system that does that in a manner that doesn't create what's happening now.

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